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	<title>Comments on: TOP2004 programmer review</title>
	<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/</link>
	<description>Same chaos as in my room or DIY guide for you.</description>
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-241</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeap, mine didn't support this chip too. I recieved message: &quot;Top2004/2005 not suport this chip!&quot;. Damn China products...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeap, mine didn't support this chip too. I recieved message: &#8220;Top2004/2005 not suport this chip!". Damn China products&#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-240</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-240</guid>
					<description>I just wondering if it can program DS89C430, I saw this in the supporting list on the manual's websit, so I decided to buy one, but when I try to program that device, the software told me that &quot;Not Support Temporyly&quot;! It made me very upset because I bought it for its feather of programming DS89C430... Can I solve this problem by update the softwrae to a newer version?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I just wondering if it can program DS89C430, I saw this in the supporting list on the manual&#8217;s websit, so I decided to buy one, but when I try to program that device, the software told me that &#8220;Not Support Temporyly"! It made me very upset because I bought it for its feather of programming DS89C430&#8230; Can I solve this problem by update the softwrae to a newer version?
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-237</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know :) This is Chinese magic. Sometimes it is very difficult to understand what they mean...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don't know <img src='http://blog.savel.org/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  This is Chinese magic. Sometimes it is very difficult to understand what they mean&#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-236</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-236</guid>
					<description>Hi,

What are the P27's in the device support list ?
I am thinking about buying one of these programmers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi,</p>
	<p>What are the P27&#8217;s in the device support list ?<br />
I am thinking about buying one of these programmers.
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-235</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-235</guid>
					<description>Untested software ver5: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vabolis.lt/stuff/topwin5.exe&quot;&gt;topwin5&lt;/a&gt;.

Inside of the device:

&lt;img src='/stuff/20081108a.jpg' alt='top2004' /&gt; 

USB connection is made with PDIUSB12:
&lt;img src='/stuff/20081108b.jpg' alt='top2004' /&gt; 

Some data lines are driven by ULN2003A:
&lt;img src='/stuff/20081108c.jpg' alt='top2004' /&gt; 

Also, there are lots of transistors:
&lt;img src='/stuff/20081108d.jpg' alt='top2004' /&gt; 

Main chip is Xilinx Spartan XCS05XL:
&lt;img src='/stuff/20081108e.jpg' alt='top2004' /&gt; 

And two chips are with abraded top, so no markings are visible:
&lt;img src='/stuff/20081108f.jpg' alt='top2004' /&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Untested software ver5: <a href="http://www.vabolis.lt/stuff/topwin5.exe">topwin5</a>.</p>
	<p>Inside of the device:</p>
	<p><img src='/stuff/20081108a.jpg' alt='top2004' /> </p>
	<p>USB connection is made with PDIUSB12:<br />
<img src='/stuff/20081108b.jpg' alt='top2004' /> </p>
	<p>Some data lines are driven by ULN2003A:<br />
<img src='/stuff/20081108c.jpg' alt='top2004' /> </p>
	<p>Also, there are lots of transistors:<br />
<img src='/stuff/20081108d.jpg' alt='top2004' /> </p>
	<p>Main chip is Xilinx Spartan XCS05XL:<br />
<img src='/stuff/20081108e.jpg' alt='top2004' /> </p>
	<p>And two chips are with abraded top, so no markings are visible:<br />
<img src='/stuff/20081108f.jpg' alt='top2004' />
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: aarggh</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-234</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-234</guid>
					<description>Has anyone tried the software for TOP2005 with the TOP2004 programmer, I would imagine that if the same types of devices are supported and the unit simply adds support for more devices that it should work?

Also, I've been trying to download the file topwin5.exe from the website listed above for the last week to try it, but it sticks at around 50%, has anyone got a copy they could email to me at circuits@aarggh.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Has anyone tried the software for TOP2005 with the TOP2004 programmer, I would imagine that if the same types of devices are supported and the unit simply adds support for more devices that it should work?</p>
	<p>Also, I've been trying to download the file topwin5.exe from the website listed above for the last week to try it, but it sticks at around 50%, has anyone got a copy they could email to me at <a href="mailto:circuits@aarggh.com">circuits@aarggh.com</a>
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-233</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-233</guid>
					<description>Read datasheet! a bit more logic inside.
As GAL devices are reprogrammable, I collect them from old hardware. So I need ALL types to program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Read datasheet! a bit more logic inside.<br />
As GAL devices are reprogrammable, I collect them from old hardware. So I need ALL types to program.
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-232</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-232</guid>
					<description>Oh. btw I have a question. 
what is different between 20v10 and 20v8? 
Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh. btw I have a question.<br />
what is different between 20v10 and 20v8?<br />
Thank you!
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-231</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-231</guid>
					<description>The software is very bad made. As software is designed for Chinese language from scratch, conversion to English language is very difficult because of difference in mentation at first. I work in company that is dealing with China products and sometimes is very difficult to explain for our China partner how to adapt the product for western world...
If someone could reverse engineer the idea of this programmer... the open source world could create much better software for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The software is very bad made. As software is designed for Chinese language from scratch, conversion to English language is very difficult because of difference in mentation at first. I work in company that is dealing with China products and sometimes is very difficult to explain for our China partner how to adapt the product for western world&#8230;<br />
If someone could reverse engineer the idea of this programmer&#8230; the open source world could create much better software for it&#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on TOP2004 programmer review by: aarggh</title>
		<link>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-230</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.savel.org/2007/05/13/top2004-programmer-review/#comment-230</guid>
					<description>I too bought one of these and have to say the software that comes with it is very sub-standard, no doubt i've got to get used to it but it cannot seem to ID chips. When you click the &quot;ID&quot; button, it just gives a message that it can only ID 27/28/29xxx EPROM. Same with trying to ID IC's, I assume you need to click on &quot;TYPE' and then detect?? This does absolutely nothing. My previous programmers were Sunshine Expro 80's which had what I thought was an outdated DOS interface, but from first impressions it's superior to the software that comes with the TOP2004. With this new programmer it's not very intuitive and it tends to leave me wondering just repeatable and reliable it is. Maybe I haven't spent enough time with it yet, but then again I shouldn't need to spend much time with it to get it working easily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I too bought one of these and have to say the software that comes with it is very sub-standard, no doubt i've got to get used to it but it cannot seem to ID chips. When you click the &#8220;ID" button, it just gives a message that it can only ID 27/28/29xxx EPROM. Same with trying to ID IC&#8217;s, I assume you need to click on &#8220;TYPE' and then detect?? This does absolutely nothing. My previous programmers were Sunshine Expro 80&#8217;s which had what I thought was an outdated DOS interface, but from first impressions it&#8217;s superior to the software that comes with the TOP2004. With this new programmer it&#8217;s not very intuitive and it tends to leave me wondering just repeatable and reliable it is. Maybe I haven't spent enough time with it yet, but then again I shouldn't need to spend much time with it to get it working easily?
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